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why are y sing that put money into apple now? >> a year ago, there was too much euphoria. today there is too much pessimism. look, apple is reflecting an absolutely worst case scenario with earnings there to be reported this tuesday. there is likelihood it's not going to be that bad. and if tim cook can lay out a plan for a capital outlays to shareholders in terms of dividend increases and share buybacks and reassure investors of their products and their vision for products, i think this stock could be much higher next week. >> all right. very interesting information. thank you so much, hank. any disclosures to make? do you own any of these stocks? >> we own them all, and i own them all personally. >> thank you so much. have a great weekend. hank smith of haverford. >> thank you. >>> and coming up next, as the price of gold and silver plunge, we'll take you to one of the country's largest coin shows to see who is buying and who is selling. >>> but first, a look at commodities, treasuries, and currencies. >>> next week on "nightly business report," we'll have earnings news
why are y sing that put money into apple now? >> a year ago, there was too much euphoria. today there is too much pessimism. look, apple is reflecting an absolutely worst case scenario with earnings there to be reported this tuesday. there is likelihood it's not going to be that bad. and if tim cook can lay out a plan for a capital outlays to shareholders in terms of dividend increases and share buybacks and reassure investors of their products and their vision for products, i think this...
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i don't see apple breaching this. you have got to take into consideration that they still have that $137 billion in cash. they are going to pick up probably another $13 billion this year, up to $150. if they do anything with their cash at any point in time - buying netflix, stock purchase plan, or a huge dividend, the stock cost $50 in a heartbeat. but, if you look at the daily chart, i talked about it in my trading room, $419, it looked like it wasn't going to go lower - it broke it in a heartbeat. then it broke $400. on friday, the futures were up 5.5 points, apple was down $5.50 on the opening. every $1.10 apple moves is $1 billion in market cap. - traditionally apple rallies ahead of earnings. earnings are coming up on tuesday. what do you think? will we get a rally here? - i don't think we will get a rally. i like to look at the at-the-money straddles that are implying a $30 move in apple. that takes it down to that $370 level, or up to $430. i think they need to say something about the cash. show me a stock purc
i don't see apple breaching this. you have got to take into consideration that they still have that $137 billion in cash. they are going to pick up probably another $13 billion this year, up to $150. if they do anything with their cash at any point in time - buying netflix, stock purchase plan, or a huge dividend, the stock cost $50 in a heartbeat. but, if you look at the daily chart, i talked about it in my trading room, $419, it looked like it wasn't going to go lower - it broke it in a...
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and another bite out of apple. key questions about the future of this company that many thought was invincible. and another, a sudden big move for the stock of google before self-correcting. that was the company involved here. what happened and how you can get hurt. first to sue. >> hi. welcome back. we missed you. great to have you back here. we start power lunch with a manpower problem at the nation's airports. politicians are not rising above and neither are many of the air travelers out there. we begin with hampton pierceon. >> here at reagan national, the number of flights being delayed has been increasing throughout the day. a snapshot looking at the schedule board shows 30 minutes to one hour delays. delays due to furloughs of controller controllers business and leez travelers we talk to today think the government ought to have come up with a better solution. r. >> i think they should have more air traffic controllers because it helps with our safety. >> i have tsa approved. i travel constantly. >> the major
and another bite out of apple. key questions about the future of this company that many thought was invincible. and another, a sudden big move for the stock of google before self-correcting. that was the company involved here. what happened and how you can get hurt. first to sue. >> hi. welcome back. we missed you. great to have you back here. we start power lunch with a manpower problem at the nation's airports. politicians are not rising above and neither are many of the air travelers...
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a top analyst gives us his buy case for apple. and later on the dreaded triple top and why one trader believes it is here for the s&p 500. [ male announcer ] when gloria and her financial advisor made a retirement plan, they considered all her assets, even those held elsewhere, giving her the confidence to pursue all her goals. when you want a financial advisor who sees the whole picture, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. who sees the whole picture, turn to us. at tyco integrated security, we consider ourselves business optihow?rs. by building custom security solutions that integrate video, access control, fire and intrusion protection. all backed up with world-class monitoring centers, thousands of qualified technicians, and a personal passion to help protect your business. when your business is optimized like that, there's no stopping you. we are tyco integrated security. and we are sharper. >> >> we will be watching shares of apple when the company reports second quarter earnings. concerns have had investors running for the exi
a top analyst gives us his buy case for apple. and later on the dreaded triple top and why one trader believes it is here for the s&p 500. [ male announcer ] when gloria and her financial advisor made a retirement plan, they considered all her assets, even those held elsewhere, giving her the confidence to pursue all her goals. when you want a financial advisor who sees the whole picture, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. who sees the whole picture, turn to us. at tyco integrated security,...
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a big launch for apple? sure, it was even bigger for hp and dell, which have seen their pc businesses implode. now there's a new reason to care about apple. cash. apple boosted its dividend to $3.05 a share. making it the biggest dividend pair in the world. the total cash return to shareholders will total $100 billion by the end of 2015. >> yes, apple is managing to lower growth expectations, it's doing so because it's now suddenly losing share. the smart phone market is not saturad, butpple finds itself losing out to more diverse and better priced android alternatives. >> reporter: tim cooke acknowledged on the call that apple's growth has slowed and its margins are coming down a bit. what's a lot less clear is weather investors will continue to embrace it as a growth stock. either way, it's going to be an important story to watch for more than just apple stockholders. for nightly business report, i'm john fort. >> later in the program, we'll look at the new strategy samsung is employing as it tries to take
a big launch for apple? sure, it was even bigger for hp and dell, which have seen their pc businesses implode. now there's a new reason to care about apple. cash. apple boosted its dividend to $3.05 a share. making it the biggest dividend pair in the world. the total cash return to shareholders will total $100 billion by the end of 2015. >> yes, apple is managing to lower growth expectations, it's doing so because it's now suddenly losing share. the smart phone market is not saturad,...
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apple would be a $1,000 stock. talking about what they called apple's unmatched asthetics. september 2012, as apple hit that record high, the mean of the 54 analysts tracking the stock was a buy with a mean price target. of course, not everybody got it wrong. once the bubble pops it goes back down to the point at which it lifted off. the question remains why did so many on the street get this one so wrong? it proved much more successful than many thought google offered a product. and then changed the market and put apple in a poor position. also, kay says analysts have a hard time calling these turns. this is due to basic behavioral investing. >> it was almost exactly 24 hours ago when we saw how much a role social media was playing in the markets. and we saw how it can be very evil. we saw the dow jones go from a gain of 135 points to negative 12 in under a minute and a half. >> an ap twitter feed has been hacked and it says breaking. two explosions in the white house and barack obama is injured. >> immediately people started trying to confirm whether or not it was actuall
apple would be a $1,000 stock. talking about what they called apple's unmatched asthetics. september 2012, as apple hit that record high, the mean of the 54 analysts tracking the stock was a buy with a mean price target. of course, not everybody got it wrong. once the bubble pops it goes back down to the point at which it lifted off. the question remains why did so many on the street get this one so wrong? it proved much more successful than many thought google offered a product. and then...
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especially with apple. if it doesn't go down, i'll eat my shoe, maybe here live. >> thank you so much for watching, see you
especially with apple. if it doesn't go down, i'll eat my shoe, maybe here live. >> thank you so much for watching, see you
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and now there is apple. the stock below that key $400. >> america's most favorite stock continues to get sliced, lowering their price target on the stock. it will likely outgrow apple this year. let's get you caught up on where it stands. its lowest level in a . backyou. >> let's take a look at morgan stanley. it has been losing ground as well. right now it is trading at or near its lows of the trading session, down 3 and 3.75%. the investment banks saying that revenues fell 40% in the first quarter. a much sharper decline than goldman sachs or jp morgan simon? >> let's have a look at shares, the revenue overall. >> united health care is in negative territory. medical costs, upsetting enrollment fuelled revenue gains. they expect budget cuts to pressure performance. >> tiler is on vacation. let's take a look at the gun stocks. they have been moving higher. all failed to get the 60 votes needed. president obama reacted with disdain over the vote. >> this was a pretty shameful day for washington. but this effo
and now there is apple. the stock below that key $400. >> america's most favorite stock continues to get sliced, lowering their price target on the stock. it will likely outgrow apple this year. let's get you caught up on where it stands. its lowest level in a . backyou. >> let's take a look at morgan stanley. it has been losing ground as well. right now it is trading at or near its lows of the trading session, down 3 and 3.75%. the investment banks saying that revenues fell 40% in...
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let's talk apple first. what do you think about the dive in apple? >> you know i'm not surprised to see it because the problem with apple it has been way too quiet recently. we need to see innovation and need to see products in the market. htc and samsung releasing their major flagships now. samsung came out yesterday. seven major carriers in the united states. that is huge. galaxy s4 will sell like gangbusters. galaxy line has always been great. what will happen he will do? will it make an incremental upgrade with the apple iphone 5 s or the ipad? we need a big change. itv or i watch, we want to see something big. melissa: we talked about apple missing earnings because they were always the king of sandbagging, managing expectations. >> we saw it last quarter. melissa: so is that a real sign of the decline in the company, that they can't even stick to that strategy? >> yeah i do think so but tim cook did say i would be more in line and give more accurate estimate in the future so that doesn't happen as often as it does or at least last quarter. so i
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in today's first look: apple's relief rally. shares of apple raced above $400 after the close. the tech company topped earnings and revenue numbers. its sales forecast was weak, but apple will return $100 billion to shareholders. it's said to be the largest dividend play in the world. federal investigators look into a hack attack of the associated press' twitter account. a fake tweet of an explosion at the white house that injured the president set off a mini flash- crash in the market. the dow dropped 145 points in a matter of seconds. the dow bounced back to rally 152 points on the all-clear. gold is down 7 dollars, oil up 18 cents. and an outtage on the charles schwab website had day traders and others complaining on twitter. the company immediately acknowleged the trouble. today could get a little crazy for traders out there. joining us now is larry shover of sfg alternatives. great to have you on the show today. i want to start by talking about that big market plunge yesterday, with the dow falling 154 points. is that completely over, or is the market still on edge? - i th
in today's first look: apple's relief rally. shares of apple raced above $400 after the close. the tech company topped earnings and revenue numbers. its sales forecast was weak, but apple will return $100 billion to shareholders. it's said to be the largest dividend play in the world. federal investigators look into a hack attack of the associated press' twitter account. a fake tweet of an explosion at the white house that injured the president set off a mini flash- crash in the market. the dow...
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apple is set to report results tomorrow. profits are forecast to drop 18% as samsung and other rivals take market shares in tablets and smartphones. revenues expected to increase 8%, but that would actually be one of the weakest quarters in years. citigroup analyst gwen young expects apple to report earnings at the low end of guidance, reflecting softer demand for the iphone 5 and the iphone 4 and to guide third quarter below market forecast. citi says any production delays in the upcoming iphone s could -- weakness for the stock. according to research firm burini associates, options on friday suggest it could move 7.5%, and that could take cares as high as $419 and or as low as $360. it's a big one to watch. it's included a lot of funds just because of its size. so a really important one for the market. chances are you are probably impacted. >> courtney, good to see you. i should mentions, too, the number of people who i speak with them informally talk about whether they're playing out apple. lots of people speculating in t
apple is set to report results tomorrow. profits are forecast to drop 18% as samsung and other rivals take market shares in tablets and smartphones. revenues expected to increase 8%, but that would actually be one of the weakest quarters in years. citigroup analyst gwen young expects apple to report earnings at the low end of guidance, reflecting softer demand for the iphone 5 and the iphone 4 and to guide third quarter below market forecast. citi says any production delays in the upcoming...
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what do you think apple mass to do? they talked about a cheaper version perhaps for the chinese market? they go for a bigger screen to compete against samsung a lot of people like, android? >> i think that, two answers there. ashley: yeah. >> the iphone and ipod were disruptive technologies in the leisure environment. it will be very difficult to replicate that. i don't know if going downstream is it necessarily the answer. that is outside of my wheelhouse. i'm not a technical product specialist but what they clearly need to do is figure out, i think back to what steve jobs did when he returned to apple initially. ashley: yeah. >> he shrunk the skus from 24 down to 10. i think that it is getting to the point where apple is starting to get a little bit too much product and here's a s version of the same thing. here is lighter version and smaller version. ashley: yep. >> gets very confusing and muddled in the marketplace where people don't have direction and opens up the door for competition to come out. we're doing this
what do you think apple mass to do? they talked about a cheaper version perhaps for the chinese market? they go for a bigger screen to compete against samsung a lot of people like, android? >> i think that, two answers there. ashley: yeah. >> the iphone and ipod were disruptive technologies in the leisure environment. it will be very difficult to replicate that. i don't know if going downstream is it necessarily the answer. that is outside of my wheelhouse. i'm not a technical...
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and you see a company like apple once, you know, the darling of the tech sector. now it's, you know, kind of a broken company, so to speak. what is it, shook, that defines what makes a winner in the technology space versus an also ran? >> absolutely. going back to the apple story, i think the company's meteoric stock rise from its mid-peak to $700 i think reflected disruptive in cycle both in terms of price and unit so the company came in anded tablet market, reor of significant value in the smartphone segment. and i think the company has been able to right that cycle, but now, of course, it's on the other side of that mountain, so to speak. so over $200 billion of market cap has been removed. and so the company is looking forward, our best position, as you pointed out, in this undergoing transformation of the technology value chain, our position at the nexus or the intersection of -- in a consumer or cloud, the information, the mobility and social media, so we think the three companies that should benefit longer term are google, amazon and three, ibm. >> we keep
and you see a company like apple once, you know, the darling of the tech sector. now it's, you know, kind of a broken company, so to speak. what is it, shook, that defines what makes a winner in the technology space versus an also ran? >> absolutely. going back to the apple story, i think the company's meteoric stock rise from its mid-peak to $700 i think reflected disruptive in cycle both in terms of price and unit so the company came in anded tablet market, reor of significant value in...
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apple's getting cored. $400 in the rear-view mirror. where can the apple bulls find bottom? we'll trade the fallout in what was america's most loved stock. >>> chipotle, is it overcooked? two traders will debate it ahead of the earnings out tonight. >>> first, the top story, google ibm and microsoft, a tech trifecta, perhaps the entire earning season lies with these three companies tonight are. they going to deliver? our traders, stephanie, mike, john, jerry and josh are here to debate. first, john has a preview. >> no pressure. there are a few things making me skiddish about this afternoon's report. particularly on the revenue side, we'll take microsoft first. the overall pc market took a dive down 14% in the first quarter. that won't help microsoft revenue. investors need the business division and server and tools division to have solid performances, but intel said data business rose 7.5%, less than some hoped. and oracle missed their revenue, it is worth questioning whether business spending is actually holding up. google analysts expect the core business revenues to hold
apple's getting cored. $400 in the rear-view mirror. where can the apple bulls find bottom? we'll trade the fallout in what was america's most loved stock. >>> chipotle, is it overcooked? two traders will debate it ahead of the earnings out tonight. >>> first, the top story, google ibm and microsoft, a tech trifecta, perhaps the entire earning season lies with these three companies tonight are. they going to deliver? our traders, stephanie, mike, john, jerry and josh are here...
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so, just how big a deal is apple soup? well, it's down about 44%, of of its record close from november november 2012. today is almost half that. look at this. what a change we have seen there. the nasdaq, just 8 percent of the nasdaq. another closely watched name. j.c. penney, the total opposite situation. they may have reason to smile. a desperate need of cash. not a breaking story, but it could get the $500 million infusion in the form of a loan from wells fargo. that would apparently be back by the retailers' inventory and accounts receivable. let's focus on the markets as you mentioned, don't count down earnings. we have ibm on deck. right now the markets are reflecting the nonbelievers out there. doreen, what you believe that is? >> clearly we have a change in sentiment from the traders. plenty of people that are welcoming these downdrafts money back into the market. still pretty well liked. we still have a lot of corporate earnings taking place, so there is good news in months all of these. liz: i guess you can say t
so, just how big a deal is apple soup? well, it's down about 44%, of of its record close from november november 2012. today is almost half that. look at this. what a change we have seen there. the nasdaq, just 8 percent of the nasdaq. another closely watched name. j.c. penney, the total opposite situation. they may have reason to smile. a desperate need of cash. not a breaking story, but it could get the $500 million infusion in the form of a loan from wells fargo. that would apparently be back...
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hiring is up at foxconn, and it's viewed as a hint the next apple iphone is in the works. according to reports, 10,000 people per week since the end of march have been added on at a foxconn factory in cheng- chow, china. that's same factory that turns out iphones. the companies have no comment, but reports says the next generation iphone 5s will launch in june. a low-cost version of the iphone is expected in august. people working for jc penney are relieved to learn the retailer's latest turnaround plan does not include eliminating employees or closing stores. penney's cfo revealed monday the company is tapping into its $1.85-billion credit line to buy inventory. the retailer will take out $850 million to revamp its home goods section, which should be ready next month. nursing homes are heading toward a critical need of employees. as baby boomers move into their golden years, the wall street journal reports the elder-care workforce will need 50% more workers. the profession, however, is considered to be low-paying at $12 an hour. the job also comes with a high injury rate
hiring is up at foxconn, and it's viewed as a hint the next apple iphone is in the works. according to reports, 10,000 people per week since the end of march have been added on at a foxconn factory in cheng- chow, china. that's same factory that turns out iphones. the companies have no comment, but reports says the next generation iphone 5s will launch in june. a low-cost version of the iphone is expected in august. people working for jc penney are relieved to learn the retailer's latest...
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apple's revenue in this quarter investors starting to wonder how does apple maintain this momentum and dominance, the tabloid market don't dominate smart phone market but still number one. liz: you were watching this as well. in the aftermarket session stock skyrocketed. how many people looked at that and 7 missed my chance and you didn't. >> we were down $400, but you have -- tim cook saying we will have the new grrat products. he didn't say the date but coming in the fall. they didn't know what it would be but i apple always seems to deliver that product people seem to love. they did again this might be a great buying opportunity. liz: i know grown-ups love them too. closing bell ringing in 29 minutes, new home construction topped 1 million units in march for the first time in five years. how is building supply company usg corp. benefiting? they make a lot of sheet rock could go into construction? the usg corp. chairman and ceo joining is a fox business exclusive on that next and in the wake of yesterday's twitter hacking the ap, here's a look at the most regrettable tweets over the
apple's revenue in this quarter investors starting to wonder how does apple maintain this momentum and dominance, the tabloid market don't dominate smart phone market but still number one. liz: you were watching this as well. in the aftermarket session stock skyrocketed. how many people looked at that and 7 missed my chance and you didn't. >> we were down $400, but you have -- tim cook saying we will have the new grrat products. he didn't say the date but coming in the fall. they didn't...
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. >> and then, how about apple? hovering around $400 a share, failing to impress shareholders with t earnings last night. but is wall street just overreacting to what is still a very profitable, strong company? >> tim cook admits, they are a mature technology company. doesn't make them a bad company, though, right? >> but does it make them valued at 700? >> that's the question. >> just how big a threat are the hacks like we saw at that fake ap tweet yesterday to the market's integrity. cfte commissioner bart shulton weighs in on that. he wrote an op-ed piece today and we'll get his comments, coming up. >> the dow jones industrial average down just a fraction. been a negative day all day, but we are off of the worst levels, 14,712, last trade of the blue chip average. nasdaq looks like this, highest level of the day. in positive territory, keeping in positive territory with a gain of about seven points but a quarter of a percent. s&p 500 looks like this, similar chart pattern as the nasdaq, where it too hovers a to t
. >> and then, how about apple? hovering around $400 a share, failing to impress shareholders with t earnings last night. but is wall street just overreacting to what is still a very profitable, strong company? >> tim cook admits, they are a mature technology company. doesn't make them a bad company, though, right? >> but does it make them valued at 700? >> that's the question. >> just how big a threat are the hacks like we saw at that fake ap tweet yesterday to...
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and apple, down again below 400 bucks. earnings next week, but apple down nearly 3% right now at 391 bucks. guys, back to you. >> lowest since december of '11. thanks, josh. see you later. ubs chairman axel vaber says he thinks investors are in a state of uncertainty. maria bartiromo sat down with mr. vaber in this exclusive interview. >> dr. axel, good to have you on the program. thanks so much for joining us once again. >> a pleasure. >> are you seeing a change in terms of investor attitudes towards capital markets, towards equities in particular, given the fact that recently we've seen a little volatility in the market. are you seeing clients change their strategies? >> well, very clearly, clients at the moment are very uncertain. so i would say we're seeing it pretty much a hands-off period in the market again. january, february, was pretty good in that sense, that the market was actually still running well, but march was more difficult for everyone. so clients are, at the moment, still in a high degree of uncertainty.
and apple, down again below 400 bucks. earnings next week, but apple down nearly 3% right now at 391 bucks. guys, back to you. >> lowest since december of '11. thanks, josh. see you later. ubs chairman axel vaber says he thinks investors are in a state of uncertainty. maria bartiromo sat down with mr. vaber in this exclusive interview. >> dr. axel, good to have you on the program. thanks so much for joining us once again. >> a pleasure. >> are you seeing a change in...
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apple's stock has declined around $300 since last fall. microsoft is the latest focus of activist shareholders. shares of microsoft jumped $1.07 on a cnbc report that activist investor group valueact has taken a $2-billion stake in the company. one of the complaints from the activist group is the stock is little changed from 11 years ago. already this year, apple, jc penney and herbalife have gained the attention of activists. ralph lauren clothing company will pay $1.6 million to settle a bribery scandal. one of its subsidiaries is accused of bribing officials in argentina. according to the the u.s. department of justice, arginentinian customs officials allegedly were given money to clear merchandise. rl stock fell $3 in trading monday. a report out of europe shows the region is making a dent on its debt. the eurozone's collective deficit decreased in 2012. its most financially strapped countries, including ireland, greece and italy, have trimmed or stabilized deficits, while more secure nations like germany have pulled back on spending.
apple's stock has declined around $300 since last fall. microsoft is the latest focus of activist shareholders. shares of microsoft jumped $1.07 on a cnbc report that activist investor group valueact has taken a $2-billion stake in the company. one of the complaints from the activist group is the stock is little changed from 11 years ago. already this year, apple, jc penney and herbalife have gained the attention of activists. ralph lauren clothing company will pay $1.6 million to settle a...
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now with jobs gone, apple watchers wonder if others will think twice before going to work for apple with steve jobs no longer there. given its very large percentage of the
now with jobs gone, apple watchers wonder if others will think twice before going to work for apple with steve jobs no longer there. given its very large percentage of the
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. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks like iphones did 37.4 million units, ipads did 19.5 million units. both of those, pretty strong based on the range where we were looking, as far as what wall street was expecting. i'll have mac units and those things in just a moment. >> jon, you keep looking through those numbers. thank you for that quick flash on apple for us. so, we've got the numbers. the actual earnings and revenues, above expectations, but the guidance, as you indicated, gene, right on the money, it is disappointing. you were in the middle of a thought there, james. please continue your thought and any chan
. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks...
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what happened to apple, tomorrow will be key. liz: take a look in the aftermarket session adjuster afr earnings. taking a hit on qualcomm. these numbers came out, qualcomm
what happened to apple, tomorrow will be key. liz: take a look in the aftermarket session adjuster afr earnings. taking a hit on qualcomm. these numbers came out, qualcomm
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apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold on a second. if you think of low cost phones, they talked about strength in china. you can't have strength with low cost phones or strengths in emerging markets and not have it impact gross margins. what's more important to you? >> a low cost phone that maintains a margin. they'll need to move some of the product mix out, innovate and i think tvs. i think i radio. something along the lines of i payments. that's what will move the sentiment and move the needle financially. >> i kind of feel this company's pain. after watching the stock be down
apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold...
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apples to apples comparison, melissa. the big theme park companies that are comparable are really subsidiaries of disney or in the case of, you know, universal, of course, subsidiary of comcast. so there's really not a direct comparable. the closest would be like you said six flags and cedar fair. compared to them, the valuation is a little bit rich. you do have to adjust, of course, for the debt as jean said, there is this 1.8 billion in debt. we did hear about that price about 20 minutes ago, at $27. we understand it could have sold more. but they really do want this thing to pop. blackstone has an interest, of course, in selling additional shares at a high price and the follow on offering and they do have to liquidate their shares over time. >> the bottom line is that you don't recommend it. why do you think there's such a strong investor appetite for this one given the uncertainty in the economy? is it a dearth of similar offerings like this? >> yes, what we're hearing essentially, in this case, it's actually a retail
apples to apples comparison, melissa. the big theme park companies that are comparable are really subsidiaries of disney or in the case of, you know, universal, of course, subsidiary of comcast. so there's really not a direct comparable. the closest would be like you said six flags and cedar fair. compared to them, the valuation is a little bit rich. you do have to adjust, of course, for the debt as jean said, there is this 1.8 billion in debt. we did hear about that price about 20 minutes ago,...
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i think people mistake on apple going to the apple store and thinking the only thing they're going to see in two years is the next generation of current devices. i think apple's playing its cards close to its chest. there's a lot of innovation going on that we don't see -- david: by the way, i am a stockholder as well, so i've got to push back. do you think that we need to change at the top? do you think tim cook is just tried, add his chance and like mr. johnson over at jcpenney, it's time for him to go? >> no. actually, i think he's dope a very good job -- he's done a very good job. he's replacing steve jobs, so i think it's too early to suggest that he's going to step down. david: boy, mr. contrarian, tom forte. good to talk to you, tom, thanks very much. >> thank you. my pleasure. liz: investigators continue their search for a suspect or maybe even two in this week's boston bombing. meanwhile, an arrest has been made in connection with those suspicious letters sent to capitol hill yesterday. we're louvre at the white house. david: also spring isn't going to just bring flowers. bar
i think people mistake on apple going to the apple store and thinking the only thing they're going to see in two years is the next generation of current devices. i think apple's playing its cards close to its chest. there's a lot of innovation going on that we don't see -- david: by the way, i am a stockholder as well, so i've got to push back. do you think that we need to change at the top? do you think tim cook is just tried, add his chance and like mr. johnson over at jcpenney, it's time for...
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everybody's talking about apple. apple clearly getting all the conversation with its report after the bell tomorrow. how about the industrials tomorrow? dupont, utx, ingersoll, ak steel, those could be the tale more so than just apple? >> but domestically, we were talking about that recently. i like the names in the technology space. i don't know if you've seen this, but seems like there's been a little bit of change in the sentiment where you buy the dips. now it's sell into the rallies a little bit. >> jon najarian, how do you see things? you can talk about tech. the number of companies reporting, significant, for certain, texas instruments, amazon, qualcomm, netflix. >> yeah, i want to go back for one second. last week at this time, we were looking at the oil complex just being slaugtered. that is the opposite today. flip it around 180 degrees. all we needed was stabilization in crude oil which we seemingly got as we traded down to whatever the bottom was in the range for crude oil. as we did that, take a look at
everybody's talking about apple. apple clearly getting all the conversation with its report after the bell tomorrow. how about the industrials tomorrow? dupont, utx, ingersoll, ak steel, those could be the tale more so than just apple? >> but domestically, we were talking about that recently. i like the names in the technology space. i don't know if you've seen this, but seems like there's been a little bit of change in the sentiment where you buy the dips. now it's sell into the rallies...
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you mentioned tech, let's start with apple. we have been killing apple, it is getting killed. do you sell now into earnings? >> it will probably get killed again, we're looking for a miss on eps, earning -- i am sorry esp, below $ 10 on apple but the stock has been battered so bad, people might buy in sympathy, i don't know if i would be panic selling it ahead of the open, if you are looking to buy it, i would not jump in yet, trade lightly. tracy: caterpillar, is a good litmus test for the local economy. you are expecting a 40% drop for mining come purchases, from china in particular. >> what we'll see from caterpillar in line to slight beat for this quarter, but the forward projects that will hurt caterpillar could look for weakness and stock to move lower after earnings. tracy: i love that hasbro has -- we buy kids for our toys. >> mattel had an awesome quarter, and hasbro has partnered up with a jewelry company to do a lot of hasbro-themed jewelry, i don't know if i am buying barbie-themed jewelry, it is interesting, i would be a buyer, lightly. tracy: i got 30 seconds lef
you mentioned tech, let's start with apple. we have been killing apple, it is getting killed. do you sell now into earnings? >> it will probably get killed again, we're looking for a miss on eps, earning -- i am sorry esp, below $ 10 on apple but the stock has been battered so bad, people might buy in sympathy, i don't know if i would be panic selling it ahead of the open, if you are looking to buy it, i would not jump in yet, trade lightly. tracy: caterpillar, is a good litmus test for...
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apple has not released new products and sales have been mediocre but expectations are so low apple could surprise wall street and begin a turn around. >> bill that could impose sale taxes on online purchases clear add hurdle. the senate votes 74-20 to take up the bill to give states the authority to require online retailers like amazon to collect state and local sales taxes. if support continues, the senate could pass the bill by this week. california and eight other states already have laws that require online retailers to collect taxes for internet purchases. >> netflix is coming back after house of cards. >> good morning, brace for delays if you are flying. the f.a.a. is expected to continue to keep planes on the ground in some of the busiest airports as budget cut result in a shortage of air traffic controllers. the transportation department says they are thinking of preventing enforcement of rules. >> are you hooked on netflix? they say they signed up two million news customers last quarter with the new scary series beating records. >> and xbox maker will have a new app that lets ga
apple has not released new products and sales have been mediocre but expectations are so low apple could surprise wall street and begin a turn around. >> bill that could impose sale taxes on online purchases clear add hurdle. the senate votes 74-20 to take up the bill to give states the authority to require online retailers like amazon to collect state and local sales taxes. if support continues, the senate could pass the bill by this week. california and eight other states already have...
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apple barely recovering, 3.94 this morning. stuart: we told you earlier you can expect some delays today because of sequester cuts affecting air traffic controllers delays about an hour in and out of newark airport. charlotte, north carolina, half-hour delays, sequesters being blamed. la guardia delayed on the porch of the two an hour. wind is blamed there as well as sequester. charles has an update on a disaster, take the disaster first. charles: one hour delay at newark is called monday. the disasters, you are right, your gut feeling is right on the ambulance chasers. they came up amazing numbers on friday, the stock was absolutely devastated you cannot even tell right now. it took a huge hit. stuart: have you abandoned us? >> i didn't want to take as much of a hit. stuart: how about the winter you want to attract? charles: i have done on the channel sometimes this year, we did at february 2 it fell, i would take that here, the pullback continued all the way back to $40. stuart: we hear you. you're an honest man. an unintende
apple barely recovering, 3.94 this morning. stuart: we told you earlier you can expect some delays today because of sequester cuts affecting air traffic controllers delays about an hour in and out of newark airport. charlotte, north carolina, half-hour delays, sequesters being blamed. la guardia delayed on the porch of the two an hour. wind is blamed there as well as sequester. charles has an update on a disaster, take the disaster first. charles: one hour delay at newark is called monday. the...
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by the way, apple is back well below 400. the white house blames congress for airport delays and jay carney diverting the heat that the president is getting from angry travelers. and the hacking crash last what, 200 billion dollars, who do you blame. hackers, twitter, computers? either way, are you more confident in wall street? enough with the questions, i will tell you this, stocks will go up yet again ten minutes from now. "varney & company" is about to begin. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thoand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it. >> all right. the your flight is delayed ap you're sitting in the airport and you are angry. the white house wants to channel that anger away from the president. the white house is
by the way, apple is back well below 400. the white house blames congress for airport delays and jay carney diverting the heat that the president is getting from angry travelers. and the hacking crash last what, 200 billion dollars, who do you blame. hackers, twitter, computers? either way, are you more confident in wall street? enough with the questions, i will tell you this, stocks will go up yet again ten minutes from now. "varney & company" is about to begin. thank you orville...
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you have the trifecta there that we just talked about, apple going lower and a mix of companies that haven't really done that well. we've seen 72% of companies actually beating in terms of their earnings, but in the tech space i don't think the number has really been that strong, so our traders today say they were shorting the nasdaq, and our gentleman that was from morgan stanley, he was saying he was looking for the markets to actually increase long term over time with technology, but short term you could still see them move lower. >> brian, let's just wrap this up. released yesterday, forward operating earnings for the s&p 500, all right, a record high. $115 per share. >> yeah. >> that gives you 13.5 times multiple. that's well within the historical range of the last many, many decades. interest rates, as that commodity chart shows, just bouncing around in a range of the profits are beating expectations. i'm not into this revenue thing. i prefer to look at profits. >> right. >> so why can't -- so we'll correct and then we'll move on. >> we've done -- last year. we did it twice, th
you have the trifecta there that we just talked about, apple going lower and a mix of companies that haven't really done that well. we've seen 72% of companies actually beating in terms of their earnings, but in the tech space i don't think the number has really been that strong, so our traders today say they were shorting the nasdaq, and our gentleman that was from morgan stanley, he was saying he was looking for the markets to actually increase long term over time with technology, but short...
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of course, nasdaq and the s&p have apple in the index sighs, and apple's been down below $400 today. obviously, the tech people hot on apple are disappointed today. we continue to watch other information that we get such as the vix, the fear index, showing that we are seeing volatility with an up arrow, and plenty of names on the move on the heels of the earnings. back to you. cheryl: thank you very much. dennis: apple shares down since sent highs. what's the shareholder to do now? joining us, we've got scott kelser with s&p capital iq. thank you, scott. >> thanks, dennis. dennis: i imagine you, just like the rest of the world on wall street, probably still has a buy on apple? >> actually, i have a strong buy recommendation on apple, yeah. dennis: how long have you had a strong buy? when did you put that on it? >> we went to strong buy in november. that was not a good call, but we had a buy recommendation the better part of four years. dennis: apple trading below $4 # 00 for the first time since december 201 # 1, and, yet, you have a price target of dlrks 600 -- 600 bucks, why the fa
of course, nasdaq and the s&p have apple in the index sighs, and apple's been down below $400 today. obviously, the tech people hot on apple are disappointed today. we continue to watch other information that we get such as the vix, the fear index, showing that we are seeing volatility with an up arrow, and plenty of names on the move on the heels of the earnings. back to you. cheryl: thank you very much. dennis: apple shares down since sent highs. what's the shareholder to do now? joining...
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this is the action as you see here on apple, or maybe not -- there you go, 480 shares of apple. the last six months, price pressure, and this is why people make fun of the company. it's down 33%. revenue warnings about q3, q2 looking okay, putting cash to work. i want to show you something else. this is the big technology sector, all the big names we follow, of course, here on fox business, but i want to give you a side by side comparison of apple and microsoft. the joke was on microsoft for so many years, and jimmy fallon made the joke on apple last night. the six-month performance of microsoft in blue against the six-month performance of apple, which is in yellow. again, this is the story today. watching apple, but, dennis, again, the company not having a great day again. dennis: yes, bloom off that rose, i guess. remember the computer chip wars? odds stacked high against amd, but that didn't stop our guest from deciding to sue intel for a billion dollars, and we're joined by former advanced microdevices hector luis, author of "slingshot," a great title, and project slingshot
this is the action as you see here on apple, or maybe not -- there you go, 480 shares of apple. the last six months, price pressure, and this is why people make fun of the company. it's down 33%. revenue warnings about q3, q2 looking okay, putting cash to work. i want to show you something else. this is the big technology sector, all the big names we follow, of course, here on fox business, but i want to give you a side by side comparison of apple and microsoft. the joke was on microsoft for so...
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it is somewhat reminiscent to what happened to apple. in the paper market, you have a dramatic selloff. in the physical market, the demand is very, very strong. connell: let's follow up on that. let's talk about apple. the big game for the dollar versus the euro. is that part of the case you make for gold? >> i think part of the reason is for safety. in times like this, i think now is a fantastic entry point. it is certainly better than two weeks ago. it is uncorrelated. that last forever. hopefully it will bring the price back up. connell: she is trying to hold back. dagen: it does not have the magical properties. i do want to ask you about storage capacity. are we maxed out in terms of the ability to store gold? >> we are not maxed out. individual investors, i think they are hitting struggles. you are saying that on a retail level. on an institution level, you are not saying that at all. connell: come back and hang out with us. i hope you like those. we like him as a guest. dagen: connell is very needed. [ laughter ] connell: the reope
it is somewhat reminiscent to what happened to apple. in the paper market, you have a dramatic selloff. in the physical market, the demand is very, very strong. connell: let's follow up on that. let's talk about apple. the big game for the dollar versus the euro. is that part of the case you make for gold? >> i think part of the reason is for safety. in times like this, i think now is a fantastic entry point. it is certainly better than two weeks ago. it is uncorrelated. that last...
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it had lost $0.290 billion at the apple iphone5 was introduced. here is goldman sachs weighing in on apple they are expecting challenges. new products coming out in the second half of the year. also, lazard capital is saying the same thing. we do not know whether or not apple will say anything more about how it will use its cash for things like capital formation. we will be watching that. those are the numbers we are looking for from the street. back to you, dagen and connell. connell: it is amazing to see apple compared to some of these. thank you, elizabeth. we will have full coverage of this later on. cheryl and dennis in the next part of markets now. they will look at $400 a share and whether that is the new normal. dagen: paying for the president's budget. if you are making more than $200,000 a year, you will be picking up a bit part of the debt. connell: on a big day for the markets, the s&p winners. netflix. that is the big story. look at that. ♪ why are 8 million people why are 8 million people sleeping better tonight? they went to a sle
it had lost $0.290 billion at the apple iphone5 was introduced. here is goldman sachs weighing in on apple they are expecting challenges. new products coming out in the second half of the year. also, lazard capital is saying the same thing. we do not know whether or not apple will say anything more about how it will use its cash for things like capital formation. we will be watching that. those are the numbers we are looking for from the street. back to you, dagen and connell. connell: it is...
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way down for apple again. and then we have mcdonald's reporting a slight rise in profits and mcdonald's is down 2 bucks. below $100. and ge. a big name, profit as expected, ge is at $21 a share, and it's down 3%. and the dow is down 33. now then one suspects on the run, another one is dead. monica crowley is here, following terror and money, following a whole lot more for you after this. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it. ow old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing th
way down for apple again. and then we have mcdonald's reporting a slight rise in profits and mcdonald's is down 2 bucks. below $100. and ge. a big name, profit as expected, ge is at $21 a share, and it's down 3%. and the dow is down 33. now then one suspects on the run, another one is dead. monica crowley is here, following terror and money, following a whole lot more for you after this. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the...
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apple. the company saying as it prepares to return cash, more cash to shareholders, it will plan to take on some debt as a way of managing its cash balance. the company for a long time prided itself on having zero debt. soon that will end. the company nonetheless saying they are confident in their ability to churn out new products in the future. beat back its rivals and pointing out that the ipad mini and ipad in general doing very well versus low cost rivals and the iphone had a quarter better than many analysts expected upwards of 37 million units sold. guys, back to you. >> let's get a check now of european markets and after a session yesterday where pretty much no sector was in the red, we're seeing more differentiation this morning. want to look at banks in particular because we're getting that flow of earnings out. we are seeing positive responses from barclays and credit suisse. rbs up 1.5% as well lloyd's is up despite sale of branches to a company in the u.k. and also we're respondi
apple. the company saying as it prepares to return cash, more cash to shareholders, it will plan to take on some debt as a way of managing its cash balance. the company for a long time prided itself on having zero debt. soon that will end. the company nonetheless saying they are confident in their ability to churn out new products in the future. beat back its rivals and pointing out that the ipad mini and ipad in general doing very well versus low cost rivals and the iphone had a quarter better...
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don: is apple by? today apple is a buy? >> free cash flow north of 10%, 2.5% and you have to believe there is something more innovation from apple than we are seeing now. tracy: one would hope. let's talk about google. motorola mobility for revenue finally hitting the financial. who would have thought google would be a verbal. my kids don't know what an encyclopedia is. they google things when they do their homework. >> google had good fourth quarter, things are challenging the first quarter, put pressure on stock, one is they divested their stock business last quarter and you have a consensus no. that was a blank. some people included the numbers and some excluded it. that added 50 basis points with potential of growth last quarter and 130 basis points the motorola mobility is the biggest change in google's armour, 12 months in see how it works out. tracy: the glasses. >> the glasses are very cool. if you think of the rumors on the i watch, google oversaw it -- overshadowed apple on the 100 day after google and it is not t
don: is apple by? today apple is a buy? >> free cash flow north of 10%, 2.5% and you have to believe there is something more innovation from apple than we are seeing now. tracy: one would hope. let's talk about google. motorola mobility for revenue finally hitting the financial. who would have thought google would be a verbal. my kids don't know what an encyclopedia is. they google things when they do their homework. >> google had good fourth quarter, things are challenging the...
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and we are keeping an eye on the bay area's apple this morning. because mixed results coming in after the closing bell. about its earnings, about its outlook. tim cook kind of encouraging investors. but the stock right now about to open down 3% to $393 a share. here we two the opening bell live. apple down about $13 of 3%. we'll keep an eye on that. >>> big story. we'll smile and say good morning, to you. thank you for joining us here on ktvu channel 2 morning news it's wednesday, april 24th i'm dave clark. >> foreign good morning, i'm pam cook. >>> representatives of a big league baseball 30 teams will meet tomorrow to discuss security changes in the wake of the bombings. last week's terrorist attack has already led to increased security at at & t park and other major league ballparks. but the league will suggest other security measures including a possible ban on backpacks. tomorrow's meeting in new york was scheduled before the bombings but the tragedy in boston has changed the focus of the meeting. >>> also this morning there are new signs tha
and we are keeping an eye on the bay area's apple this morning. because mixed results coming in after the closing bell. about its earnings, about its outlook. tim cook kind of encouraging investors. but the stock right now about to open down 3% to $393 a share. here we two the opening bell live. apple down about $13 of 3%. we'll keep an eye on that. >>> big story. we'll smile and say good morning, to you. thank you for joining us here on ktvu channel 2 morning news it's wednesday,...
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has lost some of its luster and apple is down from its all-time high in september. google could bring you more information and google is the service that tries to answer questions before the user even asks them. for example it could give you a heads up on your usual route home from work and adding it now, it could affect the area and it could be an option they could turn on and off. >>> time now 651, a historic post office in downtown berkeley, why it will not be a post office while they decide to sell the building. >>> traffic looks good heading off to the high-rise and we will tell you more about the morning commute. is it wrong to buy an entire outfit to match your mani-pedi? shop like a fashionista. not if you find something amazing for less than the price of it. save like a maxxinista. designer brands at t.j. prices. t.j.maxx. . >>> dow jones industrial average is up 14,000, nasdaq and s&p 500 is up and they are posting some gains, bay area net flicks is adding cards for some of that. >> time now 6:55 some bay area schools are seeing an increase in bomb threats
has lost some of its luster and apple is down from its all-time high in september. google could bring you more information and google is the service that tries to answer questions before the user even asks them. for example it could give you a heads up on your usual route home from work and adding it now, it could affect the area and it could be an option they could turn on and off. >>> time now 651, a historic post office in downtown berkeley, why it will not be a post office while...
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and big apple ccrcus, held at boston city hall plaza, probably set up in front of city hall, a huge cement area there. that too has been postponed. clearly the city remains very much in partial to full lockdown, unless it depends on where your region circumstance but near watertown and cambridge, they do not know where this armed and dangerous suspect of chechen decent, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev still on the loose. okay city of boston locked down today. one company whose doors are closed today, many are. but, we were able to get carbonnite chairman and ceo david friend on the phone in a fox, exclusive. this is important to sort of set the scene for us. you guys have been hurting ex smoke alley since monday -- emotionally since monday, your offers i understand is right there on huntington street very much near the finish line of the boston marathon, what has it been like today. >> today, i was on commonwealth avenue, a block from where the bombing went off. and it is usually a busy street, right now it is deserted. only other time is christmas morning. >> i can only imagine, and as i un
and big apple ccrcus, held at boston city hall plaza, probably set up in front of city hall, a huge cement area there. that too has been postponed. clearly the city remains very much in partial to full lockdown, unless it depends on where your region circumstance but near watertown and cambridge, they do not know where this armed and dangerous suspect of chechen decent, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev still on the loose. okay city of boston locked down today. one company whose doors are closed...
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it's just -- people love their apple, they hate their apple and they have feelings about apple. >> i love that light saber sound effect. let's get to the economics calendar, thank you very much. here is today's calendar. and it is very housing focused. at 9:00 eastern, you get the fhfa house price index. an hour later, march new home sales. they're expected to rise by 0.7%. we'll watch the home builders like lenar, etcetera, on those. also at 10:00 eastern, is the richmond fed survey. becky talked about some stocks. we're hitting on dupont. let's check on the broader markets. oil down about 0.9%. 88.39. brent crude down a little more, down 1%. rbob gasoline, because, really, you don't care about gasolioil. you care about gasoline, right? >> it's come down significantly. >> yeah, it has, which is good because that may counteract the effects of the payroll tax high. what about gold? let's check the commodities like gold, the ten-year. down about 7%. 7 bucks to $1414. there's been a bit of a move in sort of the euro. we want to keep an eye on that. there's your currency chart here in th
it's just -- people love their apple, they hate their apple and they have feelings about apple. >> i love that light saber sound effect. let's get to the economics calendar, thank you very much. here is today's calendar. and it is very housing focused. at 9:00 eastern, you get the fhfa house price index. an hour later, march new home sales. they're expected to rise by 0.7%. we'll watch the home builders like lenar, etcetera, on those. also at 10:00 eastern, is the richmond fed survey....
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now apple tv? i think they will come out with a tv product because that is something that tim cook said. they've got an intense interest in that area. but i think that's probably coming in the summer period at some point. i think we're going to have to wait a while for a low-end phone. so i look at all of that and in the near term, the biggest excitement quite honestly is hopefully they move the dividend up when they report the quarter. better cash return. but that's kind of what i'm looking for. if they don't do that, the stock could go quite a bit lower and there is some talk that maybe they don't do the dividend when they report the quarter. >> we'll see. or repurchase. when you say "quite a bit lower," dan, what's low enough? here you compare it to rimm and nokia is a little shocking. but ere's low enough given the prospects you're outlining? >> well, but here's the thing. right? why are you guessing as to what's low enough? until the fundamentals stop getting worse -- don't forget, this compan
now apple tv? i think they will come out with a tv product because that is something that tim cook said. they've got an intense interest in that area. but i think that's probably coming in the summer period at some point. i think we're going to have to wait a while for a low-end phone. so i look at all of that and in the near term, the biggest excitement quite honestly is hopefully they move the dividend up when they report the quarter. better cash return. but that's kind of what i'm looking...